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posted by [personal profile] aberration at 11:19pm on 05/08/2007
Er, honestly, while I do think as a factor in the canon series H/G is just as, if not more important than R/Hr by fact that Harry is, indeed, the protagonist, I kind of have to say that I saw the inevitability of R/Hr far sooner than I did H/G - while the feelings the two Weasleys had for the others was pretty clear since CoS, I kind of felt like Ron's behavior toward Hermione was more indicative than Ginny's toward Harry, I think it was more subtle than 'Ron has a crush on Hermione.'

And Hermione has always been my favorite character - which I know is sometimes an oddity among the R/Hr-Ron-Weasley lovers (Ron could annoy the crap out of me early on), but that probably did mean I was always more interested in her love live than even Harry's.
 
posted by [identity profile] connielane.livejournal.com at 11:28pm on 05/08/2007
Well, I'm not disputing inevitability. Though I did become absolutely convinced R/Hr would happen first, I did predict H/G first (though I wasn't that confident in it), and definitely became emotionally attached to it first.

But that's part of what makes me sort of bitter, I think. H/G, for a lot of people, has mostly been a predictive ship, rather than an enjoyment. Harry has always been far and away my favorite character, and leaving aside the Trio (because I don't like to rank my affection for them against other characters), Ginny has always been a favorite of mine. So, like you, my favorite characters probably have a lot to do with my pairing preference.

I just wish it didn't feel so competitive, but perhaps that's only my perception.
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posted by [identity profile] chickadilly.livejournal.com at 12:11am on 06/08/2007
I just wish it didn't feel so competitive, but perhaps that's only my perception.

I keep people saying this (only you're the first person I've seen come right out and SAY it - before I was seeing hints here and there ... ) and I'm sort of baffled about it. In fact I asked Cyndi if I was missing something. I mean ... (forgive me if I totally end up butchering this and make you feel worse because I promise that isn't my intent at ALL) ... R/Hr is my OTP and while I acccept H/G as canon I don't really ship it perse. BUT having said that - I don't have any problem with the H/G shippers ... because a lot of people love and adore that ship and I certainly don't want to take away from that.

Hrm ... My thing is that while H/G didn't work for me on a personal level I can understand that it works for others and that's okay with me. I guess I'm confused that others don't see that? Or are others feeling sensitive and upset that it doesn't work for everyone? It's sort of like the exchange I had with [livejournal.com profile] mrsbombidil the other day (I'd link but can't seem to find it - it's on [livejournal.com profile] 12_12_12's essay) where we sort of agreed to disagree - to me that's the best way to do it.

Because I almost feel like if I go into details about why it doesn't work (again for me ) then I find that others (who it obviously did work for) feel as though I'm invalidating their feelings which is NOT what I want to do at all. But on the same token if I do explain why then others saying how wrong I am then I feel as if I'm invalidated. It's a catch 22 and there are no easy solutions. Having said all of that I can understand what JKR was going for and I certainly don't think a lot of the arguments thrown at her for H/G (and H/G itself) are very fair or valid.

I guess I have a hard time seeing the competition level too because I feel as if it's all personal preferences and I try very hard to respect that others read things differently. I don't know if I always suceed but I do try.

Erm. I'll go away now.
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posted by [identity profile] chickadilly.livejournal.com at 12:13am on 06/08/2007
Ok, I said I was going away but I also want to add that I am also sorry if I tampered with your 'squee' factor by that discussion on the other post. I never meant to do that.
 
posted by [identity profile] connielane.livejournal.com at 03:10am on 06/08/2007
I have to say that I've always admired your openness to other people, regardless of their fandom preferences. I know I got a tainted start in the fandom, jumping headlong into the shipping debates. I think debating for so long something where there *was* a right or wrong answer has conditioned me to see other aspects of the books and the fandom that way, most of which are not that simple.
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posted by [identity profile] chickadilly.livejournal.com at 03:34am on 06/08/2007
*squishes* Thank you for saying that. :) I just didn't want to add to your frustration and wanted to clarify in case I did. :)

Oh yeah, I can see that. I haven't been on FA in ages but the past week or so I've been skimming a lot and I'd forgotten just how intense things get over there.

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posted by [personal profile] aberration at 12:26am on 06/08/2007
I just wish it didn't feel so competitive, but perhaps that's only my perception.
I never felt anything really like that prior to HBP and DH, but I could see it becoming more of an issue now that JKR has finally written the canon that discredits our common enemy the ship that would've broken them both, H/Hr. Now that the H/Hr point is moot, I guess it could leave a competitive opening for the CanonPairings, but that seems like it'd be kind of silly, doesn't it? I think JKR kind of made it clear that Harry wasn't looking for something like a normal life now, not to continue being some kind of distant hero, and Ginny is an important part of that.
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posted by [personal profile] aberration at 12:29am on 06/08/2007
WAS looking for something like a normal life. I really need to stop multitasking if I'm going to be understandable ever again.

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