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posted by [personal profile] connielane at 02:51pm on 29/08/2008 under
First of all, I think CNN.com made an unfortunate choice of words in their headline "McCain taps Alaska Gov. Palin as vice president pick." Just sayin'.

I'm still catching up on her biography and background, and I can see where McCain might be going with this and how Republicans would be pleased with this choice. But I can't help feeling giddy for Democrats. I know that McCain has given a set of reasons why she is his pick, but his real motive seems so obvious that I can't bring myself to put it into words. And I sincerely hope that none of Hillary's supporters are dumb enough to fall for it, especially when she's anti-choice and she's running alongside a man who is against equal pay for equal work.

Frankly, the thought of this woman being a heartbeat away (and, no offense to McCain, but that's a serious possibility here) from the presidency, not to mention those 3am phone calls, is a bit frightening. It is cracking me up to see the McCain people answering the experience argument. I mean, if we're going to use the less than two years experience she has in executive experience, she's even got McCain beat! And I'm boggling over the Republican strategists expressing confidence in the possibility of her sitting down with world leaders.

I have to say, though, that I am salivating over the upcoming vice presidential debate now. Biden could chew her up and spit her out - I don't know that he will, and I suspect that's at least a small part of the McCain strategy. If Biden is too nice, the Obama campaign looks weak, and if he rips her a new one, it will almost certainly come back to haunt him. But I'm sure he realizes that already.

I'm also looking forward to seeing the SNL impressions of these two campaign teams. I say Kristen Wiig for Palin, y/y? Armisen had better work on his Obama, though, because he is struggling.
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posted by [identity profile] angua9.livejournal.com at 08:15pm on 29/08/2008
I can't help being a bit chuffed that we (women) have come far enough that they (even the GOP!) think it worth their while to pander to us.

I need to get more serious about this because right now every time I look at Palin I see Geena Davis on that short-lived teevee show.
 
posted by [identity profile] peachespig.livejournal.com at 09:30pm on 29/08/2008
I see Geena Davis on that short-lived teevee show

OMG I'm glad I'm not the only one.
 
posted by [identity profile] the-vixxmeister.livejournal.com at 09:48pm on 29/08/2008
I love your icon, that hat looks awesome on him :)
 
posted by [identity profile] mrs-bombadil.livejournal.com at 12:22am on 30/08/2008
She utterly distracts me and makes feel like nothing but a fangirl every time I see that icon. :P
 
posted by [identity profile] the-vixxmeister.livejournal.com at 08:14am on 30/08/2008
He'd certainly be the most handsome president ever :)
 
posted by [identity profile] connielane.livejournal.com at 08:25pm on 30/08/2008
Heh. It seems the creator of that show has had similar thoughts.
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posted by [personal profile] ancarett at 08:27pm on 29/08/2008
She's a creationist as well as being anti-choice in a hardline way that McCain has gotten on board with since 2000. Blech!

But her nomination for VP does cut away at the idea that experience is necessary to run on the ticket, eh?
 
posted by [identity profile] miss-celestine.livejournal.com at 09:12pm on 29/08/2008
Creationist, anti-choice, member of the NRA... If this woman becomes vice-president of the world's most powerful nation, what does that say about the human race? Nothing too great, I'm afraid. It definitely looks like the kind of ticket that would deliberately put some oil on the "Axis of EVUL" fire.

I want to believe that Americans are smarter than to fall for that sort of easy, war-mongering manichean bullshit, but sometimes I get depressed.
 
posted by [identity profile] peachespig.livejournal.com at 09:28pm on 29/08/2008
If McCain had chosen Michael Palin, he might have had my vote!

I am really curious as to the thinking behind this pick. It just takes the experience argument right off the table for McCain, which seems like a disaster to me for him. His best hope was that moderates would be nervous and uncomfortable about Obama and feel like he was the safer choice somehow; where is that choice now?

And if he thinks he's going to get a lot of Clinton voters this way, I think he'll be surprised. He may well have fired up the Clinton base to vote for Obama more thoroughly than anything else could.

The best I can do is imagine it's a combination of a "please the conservative base" choice with a "far away from Washington change" choice. But it feels like a pick that hits those checklist points without achieving an acceptable whole.
 
posted by [identity profile] connielane.livejournal.com at 09:49pm on 29/08/2008
If McCain had chosen Michael Palin, he might have had my vote!

Because NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Or cross-dressing lumberjacks. :P

 
posted by [identity profile] peachespig.livejournal.com at 09:50pm on 29/08/2008
 
posted by [identity profile] angua9.livejournal.com at 10:07pm on 29/08/2008
Yeah, it seems a touch desperate to pick such a strikingly local politician - lacking not just national and foreign policy experience, but even exposure to or interest in or even ambition about national and foreign policy issues. And then Alaska finances and government issues are so inapplicable to the nation as a whole.

But what strikes me as the most surprising is that anyone would choose a VP candidate who's the target of a current (and just launched) ethics investigation. It's like the opposite of vetting. What if she's indicted? What if she's convicted?

 
posted by [identity profile] peachespig.livejournal.com at 10:56pm on 29/08/2008
Yeah, I remember there was low-grade buzz about Palin months ago and then when the ethics issue came along, people basically said that she was now out of contention. And yet here we are.

It's possible the McCain people have really really done their homework and are convinced this will blow over, for sure. But it amazes me that they'll even take that chance, even if it's not that big.

I wonder if this was one of those choices-by-committee that no one was really behind. Or McCain's pick alone over wishes of advisors? A compromise between him wanting Lieberman and them wanting Romney or Pawlenty? Unlike with the Obama campaign, I just have no confidence here that this decision was arrived at in any complete and rational way.
 
posted by [identity profile] blpurdom.livejournal.com at 04:56am on 30/08/2008
I found that mind-boggling as well, and I just learned about that. The date on the Youtube video (the one on Raj's LJ) is ONE MONTH AGO. Yet another reason why it's clear that she was selected for her chromosomes.
 
posted by [identity profile] prongssr.livejournal.com at 01:35pm on 30/08/2008
I've not heard anyone describe her as a "local polition", but that is a perfect way to describe her!I hope Obama's campaign and the news media would pick up on that and use the catch word over and over again.

I thought it was one of the stupidest picks ever, but unfortunately, there are woman out there that might buy into this "story" and how wonderful it would be to have a woman in the whitehouse. It's pretty disgusting bit of pandering.
 
posted by [identity profile] prettyannamoon.livejournal.com at 11:17pm on 29/08/2008
Apparently there's the oil thing too - McCain can point to Palin as a shining beacon of exemplary light who's taken the president's BFFs big, mean oil industry! But ditto everything you and Pam said. Scary.
 
posted by [identity profile] the-vixxmeister.livejournal.com at 09:49pm on 29/08/2008
I think I'm going to have to get someone to explain all of this to me - you're all posting about it and I don't know who these people are and am afraid of just finding propaganda when I Google them!
 
posted by [identity profile] prettyannamoon.livejournal.com at 11:11pm on 29/08/2008
Wikipedia is a good place to start - most of the candidates profiles have been prettied up in the past year, but it still gives you a general idea while at least trying to seem unbiased.
 
posted by [identity profile] the-vixxmeister.livejournal.com at 08:15am on 30/08/2008
Thanks muchly :)
 
posted by [identity profile] lunalovepotter.livejournal.com at 12:29am on 30/08/2008
The thought of this woman potentially running the country absolutely terrifies me. I'm hoping this stunt will backfire big time on McCain; we simply can't afford another four years of this crap.
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posted by [personal profile] ashavah at 01:22pm on 31/08/2008
As soon as I heard about the choice, I just kind of went ... "huh? Doesn't that negate everything they've been saying about Obama's inexperience"?

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