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posted by [identity profile] redwood7.livejournal.com at 12:44am on 06/08/2007
As it is, there's a tiny bit of bitterness there, and I feel kind of annoyed sometimes when people talk about R/Hr as the "real" romance of the HP series.

I enjoyed both relationships and what they brought to the books, but I think R/H was just more...central (not sure that's the correct word) to the series. It has more page time and is developed throughout the series. (One could also argue that having the climax of the R/H relationship so late in the series gives it added weight as the "central" ship.) H/G was obviously planned, but their romantic relationship did not really develop until HBP. And in DH it's mostly off-page for obvious (and stated) reasons.

From a personal standpoint, I have always felt far more emotionally invested in R/H. This is no surprise to me because I love tension and all the emotions being out there. And with R/H, you've got seven books worth of bickering and drama before the pay-off. Love it.

In contrast, H/G was essential, but not necessarily for me. It did not touch me in the same way emotionally, probably because of the limited story time (though it was *fantastic* when it finally bubbled to the surface -- yay chest-monsters!).

Now, I cannot imagine the books without H/G. Ginny (and/or what she represents) was important to Harry's decision to come back. Ron and Hermione, as wonderful as they are, are not the conventional family Harry has always longed for. This is why the epilogue is essential. We need that closure for Harry (not just to fend off the H/H-ers). But I'm human (and therefore selfish) so the R/H ship will always represent something slightly more special to me. It has nothing to do with the "realness" of either ship, though.

So if your OTP is H/G, go you. We're all canon, after all, and isn't that what really matters?
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posted by [identity profile] firoza.livejournal.com at 04:33am on 06/08/2007
This is why the epilogue is essential. We need that closure for Harry (not just to fend off the H/H-ers).

Exactly!

My OTP may have switched from R/Hr, to H/G over the course of the series, but like you said, WE ARE CANON and that's what really matters!
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posted by [identity profile] heatherhobbit.livejournal.com at 11:11am on 06/08/2007
I basically feel the same way [livejournal.com profile] redwood7 feels, but I'd like to add a little bit. I like H/G and ship it, but R/Hr has always been my primary ship because it started developing first, had more page time, and helped the reader get to know both Ron and Hermione better. Of course, we get to know Ron and Hermione because of their friendship with Harry, but their interactions with each other really rounded them out as characters, too. Their "romance" with each other became a huge part of their own stories. On the other hand, H/G was only a small part of Harry's story until HBP, and then a lot of it happened off the page.

I wouldn't call R/Hr the "real" romance, though. J/L, A/M, H/G, R/T, B/Fl, etc are all "real." I wouldn't even say R/Hr was the most important ship because I think that would be Snape/Lily. But, I do think R/Hr was supposed to be the ongoing, most prominent ship since the very beginning. I've been saying for a long time that R/Hr is THE ship of the series, meaning when the average reader (not the obsessed shipper) looks back many years from now and think whichs ship from HP sticks out in their memories the most, it's going to be R/Hr. There's just more of it.

When I think of Harry, I think about Voldemort, his parents, and his relationships with Ron, Hermione, and Dumbledore. H/G is his future, not his story. When I think of his two sidekicks, on the other hand, I think of their role in Harry's life first, and then I think about their relationship with each other. That's how I think, and I have a feeling a lot of readers would say the same, even a lot of H/G shippers.

I ship H/G for the same reasons I ship R/T and B/Fl. It makes the characters happy. It gives them a reason to fight. Ginny gave Harry a future, and I love that. But when I'm reading the books, especially the earlier books, I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about Harry and his mission. R/Hr is just more "in your face."

I have no bitterness towards H/G shippers, and I hope it doesn't seem like I'm gloating over R/Hr having more page time. I love the idea of OBHWF, and it seems like the Teddy/Victoire hints in the epilogue do give you the idea that a lot of the surviving characters are linked to the Weasleys now.

And while I have no bitterness and don't want to gloat, it does make me feel vindicated. So many times I was criticized for my primary ship not involving the protagonist. I heard it all the time from a lot of H/Hr shippers and from a few H/G shippers. "R/Hr won't be the most prominent romance because it doesn't involve Harry." It just feels good to not have to apologize anymore for my OTP not involving Harry.

We're all on the same side. We shouldn't have to defend our primary ships against each other.
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